As we noted earlier, 141 MPs said through their vote today that there could not even be a fresh debate. As far as these 141 MPs are shamefully concerned, that's it. It's a done deed and they're not even willing to let Parliament talk about it.
These are the 141 who voted 'No':
NOES
Andrew, Stuart (Conservative)
Bailey, Mr Adrian (Labour)
Barclay, Stephen (Conservative)
Barron, rh Mr Kevin (Labour)
Bayley, Hugh (Labour)
Begg, Miss Anne (Labour)
Beith, rh Sir Alan (LibDem)
Beresford, Sir Paul (Conservative)
Betts, Mr Clive (Labour)
Blenkinsop, Tom (Labour)
Boles, Nick (Conservative)
Brake, Tom (LibDem)
Brine, Mr Steve (Conservative)
Brooke, Annette (LibDem)
Brown, Mr Russell (Labour)
Bruce, Fiona (Conservative)
Bruce, rh Malcolm (LibDem)
Burden, Richard (Labour)
Collins, Damian (Conservative)
Durkan, Mark (SD&LP)
Ellison, Jane (Conservative)
Evans, Graham (Conservative)
Farron, Tim (LibDem)
Freer, Mike (Conservative)
Fuller, Richard (Conservative)
Gyimah, Mr Sam (Conservative)
Hancock, Matthew (Conservative)
Hanson, rh Mr David (Labour)
Harris, Rebecca (Conservative)
Havard, Mr Dai (Labour)
Hemming, John (LibDem)
Hollingbery, George (Conservative)
Hopkins, Kelvin (Labour)
Horwood, Martin (LibDem)
Howarth, rh Mr George (Labour)
Huppert, Dr Julian (LibDem)
James, Margot (Conservative)
Kelly, Chris (Conservative)
Laing, Mrs Eleanor (Conservative)
Leadsom, Andrea (Conservative)
Lee, Dr Phillip (Conservative)
Leech, Mr John (LibDem)
Lefroy, Jeremy (Conservative)
Long, Naomi (Alliance)
McCrea, Dr William (DUP)
Mills, Nigel (Conservative)
Morris, James (Conservative)
Munn, Meg (Labour)
Murray, Sheryll (Conservative)
Nash, Pamela (Labour)
Nokes, Caroline (Conservative)
Offord, Mr Matthew (Conservative)
Percy, Andrew (Conservative)
Phillips, Stephen (Conservative)
Poulter, Dr Daniel (Conservative)
Raynsford, rh Mr Nick (Labour)
Reid, Mr Alan (LibDem)
Ritchie, Ms Margaret (SD&LP)
Rogerson, Dan (LibDem)
Rosindell, Andrew (Conservative)
Russell, Bob (LibDem)
Shannon, Jim (DUP)
Simpson, David (DUP)
Smith, Julian (Conservative)
Smith, Nick (Labour)
Smith, Sir Robert (LibDem)
Soulsby, Sir Peter (Labour)
Stevenson, John (Conservative)
Stride, Mel (Conservative)
Stuart, Ms Gisela (Labour)
Swales, Ian (LibDem)
Thomas, Mr Gareth (Labour)
Tomlinson, Justin (Conservative)
Ward, Mr David (LibDem)
White, Chris (Conservative)
Whitehead, Dr Alan (Labour)
Williams, Roger (LibDem)
Williams, Stephen (LibDem)
Wollaston, Dr Sarah (Conservative)
Wright, Simon (LibDem)
Tellers for the Noes:
Peter Bottomley and
Chris Bryant
Now, bearing in mind that this was NOT a vote on the smoking ban but a vote on whether Parliament could have a debate, we feel that even non-smokers - even those opposed to a partial reversal of the ban - might understand us when we say that this is a matter that we should judge on a libertarian vs. totalitarian scale.
What those who have voted 'no' today have said is that they will not even listen to or engage in a debate.
So, how do these stack up by party? We've totted up the numbers and the percentage is in relation to the total number of MPs each party has. Now, we knew the Labour lot were authoritarian totalitarian control freaks. It's hardly surprising when they walk around dictating what everyone can and cannot do. But the LibDem lot are not looking particularly Liberal or Democratic here. What, not even a conversation about the matter? Shame on you.
Here's the breakdown of those who voted to refuse even a debate:
Conservative 37 (12% of their MPs)
Labour 79 (31% of their MPs)
LibDem 18 (32% of their MPs)
DUP 3 (38% of their MPs)
SD&LP 2 (67% of their MPs)
Alliance 1 (100% of their MPs)
Green 1 (100% of their MPs)
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So, who are the MPs who voted today - not for any change in the legislation - but to accept debating the impact of the smoking ban. We do not know how these MPs would have voted had the smoking ban been debated anew. But at least these MPs said that they would listen. Thank you.
Those MPs who voted yes and indicated that they were at least prepared to listen were:
Donaldson, rh Mr Jeffrey M. (DUP)
Hemming, John (LibDem)
Tellers for the Ayes:
Mr Peter Bone and
Mr Philip Hollobone
Straight away, the people who are libertarian enough or at least reasonable enough to have a conversation and debate about the issue seem to be strongly from one end of the political spectrum, but as above, so below. Here's the tally:
Conservative 75 (24% of their MPs)
Labour 4 (2% of their MPs)
LibDem 4 (7% of their MPs)
DUP 3 (38% of their MPs)
SD&LP 0 (0% of their MPs)
Alliance 0 (0% of their MPs)
Green 0 (0% of their MPs)
It's a generalisation, but once again it is the political-'right' leaning politicians who demonstrate their libertarian credentials and their willingness to debate.
Once again - generalising, true - but it is the political-'left' leaning politicians who demonstrate their totalitarian, authoritarian, controlling nature and their refusal to engage in debate.
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Final score
If we subtract the 'noes' from the 'ayes', we will end up with positive and negative numbers.
A positive score indicates libertarian or willingness to engage credentials.
A negative score indicates totalitarian, authoritarian, controlling tendencies and a refusal to engage in debate.
Conservative 75-37 = +38 (+12% for all their MPs)
Labour 4-79 = -75 (-29% for all their MPs)
LibDem 4-18 = -14 (-25% for all their MPs)
DUP 3-3 = 0 (0% for all their MPs)
SD&LP 0-2 = -2 (-67% for all their MPs)
Alliance 0-1 = -1 (-100% for all their MPs)
Green 0-1 (-100% for all their MPs)
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On analysis, Parliament does what Parliament is - it has voted along very tribal lines.
But the message from today is one that we have made reference to before. The media should not be permitted to demonise the political 'right'. Parties of the 'right' traditionally have libertarian tendencies and a willingness to debate.
Parties of the political left? M'lud, we rest our case...
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