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Thursday, 30 September 2010

By Jove! LibDumDum Minister's awfully nice and polite request to Evil Empire as Europe crashes and burns

From 101 Things You Will Never Hear From A LibDumDum*, comes this listing at #28:

Any criticism of the European Empire, to which LibDumDum leader Nick Clegg is a sworn loyalist and dedicant.

Tearing up the rule book on conduct for LibDumDums today is Vince Cable. While being terribly and awfully polite, old bean, he has - By Jove! - made an outspoken criticism of the Evil European Empire, nonetheless.

Demonstrating an ability to read the newspapers, Cable has warned that the people of Europe will not accept massive increases in EU budgets at a time when national budgets are being slashed, unemployment is on the rise, and the people are forced to suffer for events outside of their control.

The Daily Express quotes Cable as saying to MEPS: "I have to sound the alarm here: at a time when national governments, including mine, are having to make very painful cuts in public spending, no one can understand why the European budget is not being subjected to the same discipline. There is a big backlash on the way, not only in the UK. Can I plead with you to tackle this issue sensibly? Any sense that the European Parliament and European Commission are not acutely sensitive to this issue will be seriously damaging."

Awfully, terribly polite and prim and proper of you, Vince.

How about: "Give the people their money and their national sovereignty back, you thieving, cheating, undemocratic bunch of controlling totalitarian dictators"..?

So, what could have provoked this totally unexpected polite little squeak - welcome nonetheless - from a LibDumDum, of all people..?

Could it be the riots and protests taking place all over Europe?

Take away people's democratic voice and take away their jobs... guess what happens?

Not in Britain, obviously. We're all too busy watching The X Factor.

But now you know why New Labour brought in all of the police state apparatus. It was never about protecting us from the invented bogeyman of Islamist extremists.

It was - in our opinion - always about protecting the corrupt politicians from the anger of we, the people.

As we say, nothing to worry about in Britain. One member of the public got angry about taxpayers being fleeced by MPs with dodgy expense claims and they went onto BBC's Question Time and said the word: "Poppycock!" (or something) to the assembled politicians. And despite us all being fleeced and robbed blind by bogus expense claims, the utterance of 'poppycock' or similar such words is the new form of British anger.

Meanwhile, on this week's X Factor...

* We obviously made the title 101 Things You Will Never Hear From A LibDumDum up. It was a cheap line for the purposes of satire.

Electoral Fraud: Warsi's bold assertion

The Conservative Chairman, Baroness Warsi, has said that electoral fraud, quote, "predominantly within the Asian community" was partly the reason for the Conservatives failing to win an outright majority at the General Election.

That, and Cast Iron Dave's surrender to the European Empire, eh Sayeeda? Oops, elephants in room time - mustn't upset the Conservatives by mentioning one of those.

Warsi's allegations concerning electoral fraud are featured in the New Statesman and reported by - at opposite ends of the political spectrum, the Daily Mail and the BBC.

The alleged electoral fraud is said to have been advantageous to New Labour - though the latter denies all knowledge and says that she should produce evidence to the appropriate authorities.

The Electoral Commission have said that the police would need to investigate.

This is not the first instance of alleged electoral fraud in which Asian communities and New Labour have been mentioned alongside each other.

Of course, it is much easier for Britain’s first female Muslim Cabinet minister to make these allegations public - a large number of us would be too scared to do so for fear of being accused of racism.

That said, Warsi is being true to her feisty and gutsy nature and her speaking out about alleged criminal activity regarding our democratic system is commendable.

But if she is that concerned about alleged criminal offences and British democracy, could we invite her to walk into a police station and report the crime of treason, committed by Ministers in successive British Governments from 1972 to date..?

UKIP's Batten and Campbell Bannerman publicly denounce successive British Governments for treason

So that the record is clear, the blogger is attempting to be completely neutral on the UKIP leadership race. This blog wants to encourage UKIP members to listen to all of the candidates and to choose wisely. Your country depends on it.

One of the two people involved in this positive story is a leadership contender - we will try to ensure that we give equal coverage to other contenders during the campaign, too.

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Anyway, we're just back from a UKIP branch meeting - open to the wider public - in which both David Campbell Bannerman and Gerard Batten addressed issues relating to civil liberties and the European Arrest Warrant and European Investigation Order.

The headline news, which we want to start by sharing, is that both Gerard Batten and David Campbell Bannerman made reference to our treason laws and - in different styles of delivery - both made the case for treason against a long chain of politicians.

Gerard Batten's speech was very much the same as his conference speech. He spoke of how the "United States of Europe" was well on the way to establishing a "European Union Police State".

His criticisms included the passing of Qualified Majority Voting under Thatcher's Government and warned that "Britain will be reduced to a region of an integrated European Union" - a process, he stated, which is almost complete.

On European immigration, Batten denounced the fact that: "We've now got slavery [in Britain] for the first time in 200 years" - noting that we have no right to deal with problems connected to some aspects of European immigration.

Much of his talk was geared around the difference between the systems of English law and the law models of Europe.

On the European Arrest Warrant, he asserted that "extradition has been reduced to the export of human carcasses" - the carcasses in question being that of we, the British people.

And another important soundbite? Try: "the institutions are being built for this police state."

David Campbell Bannerman meanwhile accused Edward Heath - quite openly - of being a liar on the issue of national sovereignty.

He focused on the building of a "nation state called Europe".

He lamented the fact that our financial services sector is "under sustained attack" from jealous European nations and claimed that Hedge Fund Managers were now "beginning to think along our [UKIP] lines".

One of the most interesting and WELCOME parts of the night as far as this blogger is concerned came about after questions from a small group of local, young, non-UKIP associated college students.

A large round of applause went up for Gerard Batten when he answered one of their questions by saying that our youngsters should be educated about Habeas Corpus, Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights - and nobody applauded louder than this blogger.

And David Campbell Bannerman also started discussing with the audience what 'treason' is and how collaborating with a foreign power was a treasonous act.

The national constitution and the treason laws? See - UKIP does speak our language...

Tuesday, 28 September 2010

UFOs: What's with all the stories?

There have been an astonishing number of mainstream news reports on UFOs and aliens recently. What is more remarkable about that is the fact they are still appearing, even though the traditional 'silly season' has ended.

They are still appearing even though the election of Mr. Ed as leader of the Labour Marxist Party has received sufficient newspaper coverage to have eradicated a small corner of the Amazon Rainforest.

One example of these UFO and alien stories comes from the Daily Mail today. It's a story related to the fascinating 1980 Rendelsham Forest incident - dubbed by ufologists as 'Britain's Roswell'.

Just forty-eight hours ago, the Daily Telegraph - picking up on a Sunday Times (£) report - told how: "A space ambassador could be appointed by the United Nations to act as the first point of contact for aliens trying to communicate with Earth."

The 'alien ambassador' story has since been denied, The Guardian reports.

Now, if I were to be open to conspiracy researchers (heaven forbid!), I might start trying to spot a narrative here...

If there is an explanation to all of these stories, could the United Nations angle be the clue?

Faced with ridicule over 'man made global warming', perhaps the global elite need a new imaginary dark threat to all humanity with which to beat us with a stick and make us give up our rights to a totalitarian one-world government.

Or maybe that's just a nutty conspiracy theory..?

(Actually, it's just a light-hearted take on the plethora of stories - we like to smile sometimes, as well as complaining about things).

Take me to your leader or separated at birth?

Monday, 27 September 2010

Should Bilderberg members be barred from the UK Parliament?

With James Delingpole and the Daily Telegraph providing a link to the official Bilderberg website, here's our second post on that matter today.

The Bilderberg website clearly states that EU-loving Conservative MP Ken Clarke - now Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice - is on the Bilderberg Steering Committee.

It also clearly states that Baroness Shirley Williams (Lib Dem) and crossbencher Lord Kerr (listed as John Kerr of Royal Dutch Shell) were just two of the people from the United Kingdom to attend the Bilderberg Conference in Sitges, Spain earlier this year.

Well now, we need to have some fun with this.

We need to put in official requests for information to find out if they were attending in a private capacity or in their role as Members of the House of Lords.

They are listed as members of the House of Lords, so surely we have a right to know what they were doing there?

Surely we have a right to know what was discussed?

Surely we have a right to see the minutes?

Surely we have a right to know whether the taxpayer financed any aspect of their attendance?

Surely we need to know whether anything discussed has an impact on any part of United Kingdom government policy?

And, surely, we need to consider whether attendance of the Bilderberg Conference constitutes a conflict of interest which should cause one to be barred from entering the precincts of the Houses of Parliament?

There's the ball rolling for you - over to you to have more fun with this official disclosure...

Quote of the Day: 27th September 2010

"Labour's Greek Tragedy continues in Manchester as we all wait to see what the defeated brother will do next. Sophocles or Aeschylus could not have written a better drama."

- Sky's Glen Oglaza uses Greek mythology to mull over the labyrinth of complexities facing the dull as dishwater Marxist Brothers, David The Treacherous and Mr. Ed

Personally, we couldn't care a fig about either of them. Is there a Greek myth about two people eating each other? If so, let's hope that the Marxist Brothers live out that in reality and just go away. Gosh, they're dull. And one is a treacherous scumbag. Hey ho.

UKIP Leader Nominations Closed (updated)

The official deadline for UKIP leadership nominations to be received past at 7pm this evening.

An official announcement on the UKIP website states that the four candidates are (in alphabetical order) David Campbell Bannerman, Tim Congdon, Nigel Farage and Winston McKenzie.

Good morning, New World Order: We Know What You're Doing

This is probably, to some, one of the more bizarre posts that this blog has ever made. To some, it will be firmly out of "conspiracy theory" territory. However, if some do not read widely enough and if some are not prepared to listen to alternative views and follow up on their sources, that's their look-out.

With the utterly marvellous James Delingpole doing a bit of whistleblowing on the Bilderberg Group via the Daily Telegraph and calling for a "'Global Warming' Nuremberg" (great idea), we thought it high time to make the post that we've been minded to make for a while.

There's an X Files sub-title which is well-known amongst show aficionados: Fight The Future.

Sometimes, when we go on about the European Empire and demand our restoration of sovereignty, it can get a little disheartening. One can feel helpless. One can adopt a position of impotent resignation.

But here is why we should keep on spreading the word. Even if they switch the internet off (don't put it past them), we should still talk to each other.

Okay, they stopped smokers congregating in pubs and killed off the British pub industry... but we still have supermarket queues, bus stops. They can't close off all avenues for we, the people, to communicate with each other.

Much as they would like to.

The New World Order knows we're waking up to them and their global agenda.

Think I'm nuts?

Well, let's hear it directly from the New World Order.

Follow the links.

This is Zbigniew Brzezinski talking to the Council on Foreign Relations.

So, good morning New World Order. We know what you're doing. A few more awake, and we'll have that Nuremburg...

(Incidentally, Delingpole - link at top - states that Bilderberg are actually more worried about global cooling than what the 'scientists' and mainstream media have tried making the rest of the world fearful of, this last decade or more...)

Sunday, 26 September 2010

Sunday Paper Review: 26th September 2010

Just before we start on this week's paper review, we wondered whether the deity Gaia - worshipped by the Greenies - might send some global warming our way? The central heating - which the great 'climate' scam means we can no longer afford - is set to a thermostat here in the Clock Tower and, for the first time of 2010, it dropped to such a temperature that the heating came on yesterday.

So, can we have some global warming please? We pay enough for it - about time we had some.

That said, onto the newspapers. No prizes at all for guessing that the proclamation of Mr. Ed as the leader of the Labour Marxist Party figures quite highly... we'll try to ignore him which we tend to find is for the best with these socialista types.

That does mean that our selection of 'the rest' is really scraping the barrel, this week...

The Mail on Sunday picks up where it left off a week ago - exposing British retailers who sell ritually slaughtered halal meat without disclosing the fact to their customers. Amongst those fingered in the report are: "Waitrose, Marks & Spencer, Sainsbury’s, Tesco, Somerfield and the Co-op." ASDA has - according to the report - refused to confirm or deny. Meanwhile, a whole host of fast food chains are also fingered, including: "Domino’s Pizza, Pizza Hut, KFC, ­Nando’s and Subway."

The supermarkets are beyond a joke. You have to prove that you're over 65 years of age and take both parents in order to buy a yogurt from them these days and now they're selling us Muslim meat that is too scared to come out of the closet and declare itself to be so.

Hilariously, both McDonalds and Burger King are offering non-halal menus. So, if you want to know how the animal you are eating died, better make it a Big Mac or a Whopper and eat it with fries and a side serving of Cola flavoured aspartame.

The Sunday Express reports that the "City of London Corporation wants to put 120ft-long banners carrying logos of multinational companies on the moving sections of the city’s Tower Bridge." Yes, in plain speak, everyone, that's adverts. For - we are informed - "companies such as Coca-Cola and McDonalds". If they do that, I'll join you in the queue to tear such an abomination down from one of Britain most globally known and most loved landmarks.

Where do they find the idiots who come up with these ideas? No sense of propriety or British culture and heritage, that's for sure. Give me strength...

The Sunday Telegraph has a story concerning the predicament facing Liverpool Football Club. Now, if this isn't an example of a perfectly brilliant British institution going to the wall once foreign owners get their hands on it, I don't know what is. The report informs us that "RBS holds the majority of the £282 million debt laden on to Liverpool by the club‘s current owners" - the Americans Tom Hicks and George Gillett.

What's that? RBS? That rings a bell. Oh, that's right! As the report also tells us, that is: "The bank, which is 84 per cent government owned". So, we - the taxpayer - actually, in a roundabout way - own a football club. We are also informed that RBS "is due to call the loans in on October 15". And then what? Will Jeremy Hunt MP have to name the squad, run up and down the touchline shouting out tactics and dishing out the half-time oranges?

And while we're at it, aren't we - the taxpayer - already paying for this? Yup, checked... seems we still do.

Any other Premier League football clubs want a few quid from we, the taxpayer? Send your request for as many millions as you want to The Treasury, Westminster - no begging bowl too big refused. We, the taxpayer, will live on gruel and fluoridated water - don't worry about us.

We had to search around the Independent on Sunday quite deeply to find something to read other than stories concerning Mr. Ed, new leader of the Labour Marxist Party. We instead found this - a profile of Dilma Rousseff, a woman set to become the new President of Brazil and who the newspaper describes as a "former guerrilla set to be the world's most powerful woman."

One wonders whether Hillary Clinton will be happy with that description of Rousseff.

"Hell, Bill! We're gonna have to run that broad right outta town!"

Same with The Observer - it's all about Mr. Ed, the new leader of the Labour Marxist Party.

They do, however, offer readers the opportunity to 'interview' David Attenborough. We're wondering if we'd get away with asking a question about the great carbon swindle and a global programme of eugenics and human culling...

And, after all that, you probably need cheering up. And what could ever be more joyous than a Minogue sister..? The News of the World gives us plenty of insight from Dannii... while failing to mention Kylie's stunning new single - 'Get Outta My Way' - in all good record stores tomorrow (it says here).

Enjoy your Sunday!

Saturday, 25 September 2010

Mr. Ed wins the Marxist Party Leadership contest

So, Mr. Ed has won the Labour Marxist Party leadership election, thanks to the backing - not of MPs or Labour Party members - but due to the power of trade unions and affiliates.

So, guess who will be pulling his strings...

What can we say?

We hate him slightly less than his treacherous brother..?

We shall enjoy ridiculing Mr. Ed at every given opportunity.

Lord Mandy's £8,600 a month from the EU: A non-shock

The Daily Telegraph reports that Lord Voldemort, the Prince of Darkness (otherwise known as Peter Mandelson) "is still paid £8,600 a month by the EU despite leaving his Brussels post two years ago".

Thing is, the newspaper makes out like it's some kind of shocking revelation.

Of course it is not.

We all KNOW that once they have been on the European Empire gravy train, they are paid handsomely for their loyalty to the project - from taxpayer funds - for long after their official service ends.

We say 'official' service to the European Empire project only we also know that some such monies from the European Empire come with strings attached - that the recipient has to continue to act in accordance with supporting the interests of the project.

If we had some decent Members of Parliament, they could instigate some kind of investigation into these payments and exactly what the strings attached are.

However, we do not have more than about six decent Members of Parliament. Most of them are pathetic party loyalists who do not serve the interests of their constituents. Pathetic little lapdogs and lobby fodder who wouldn't know a spine if they were to grow one.

What is clear, however, is that continued payments from the European Empire represent a conflict of interest when the recipient goes on to have a position of power within the nation state.

Can it safely be argued that Peter Mandelson's judgments and position of political influence as part of the New Labour government were untainted by his continued association and relationship with the European Empire? Would he have always acted in the British national interest, even if it meant standing up to the European Empire?

What of his position within the House of Lords?

Again, if we had any decent Members of Parliament, it is something that they might have some kind of committee to examine and scrutinise.

We do not have any decent Members of Parliament, however - about half a dozen.

Now, if we had any decent Members of Parliament, they could also stand up in the House of Commons and ask Lib Dem leader and Deputy PM Nick Clegg - former European Empire employee - about whether he has a continued relationship with the European Empire, including but not limited to questions about current or expected future income from Brussels.

If he does receive anything now or expects to in future - and we're only saying that the question should be asked - then he is compromised on his ability to make decisions in the British national interest.

For that reason, it is a question that needs to be asked. If it is found that he does or will in the future receive income from the European Empire, then he should be prevented from making decisions that have an impact on any area of policy affecting the United Kingdom.

We do not know whether Clegg does or will receive anything. We say the question should be asked.

Look, we KNOW that it has happened before. Peter Mandelson has only just left Government. He continued to receive income from the European Empire while being involved in making decisions where the British national interest and our relationship with the European Empire must, from time to time, have arisen.

So, we need to root out all people in positions of power in this country and prevent them from making any decisions where there is even the possibility of a conflict due to personal income from the European Empire.

We need to start at the top and Nick Clegg is the highest ranking former employee of the European Empire in the country.

Will any of our 650 pathetic Members of Parliament have the audacity to use their insurance card of Parliamentary privilege to even ask the questions? Of course not.

The entire set up is - at best - dubious and questionable.

And we are paying for it all, possibly in more ways than one.

Welcome back to Britain, Tetley Teafolk!

In a rare break from moaning about the state of the nation, we thought we would share our utter joy at... a TV commercial?

Well, we were just sat down watching Corrie on ITV2, when we saw this...


Yes, it's the return of the Tetley Teafolk! Yay! Isn't there something reassuringly British and warming about the lovely characters?

I mean, it says something about the state of the nation (sorry about the reversal to moaning) when characters from a TV commercial now mean so much in the heart of someone who loves Britain, but there we go - rejoice, rejoice, the wonderful Tetley Teafolk are back! We'll have to go and buy a box tomorrow. Because Tetley make Tetley Teafolk ads, make tea...


Friday, 24 September 2010

Cor Blimey! BBC gives airtime to the English Democrats!

Well, well, well... the widespread criticism and public acknowledgment of the institutional bias in favour of 'left-wing' parties and policies (including their love of all things European Empire) must be getting to someone high up in the BBC chain of command! They've only gone and put the English Democrats onto TV news!

Now, lest we enter the realms of hypocrisy, we at this blog wholeheartedly support the main aim of the English Democrats and LOVE their embracing of our constitution... but we do have a major issue with one of their statements about human relationships which makes it impossible for us to support them as a party, even if we support their aims.

However, we believe that all parties which do not comprise the Lib-Lab-Con should be given a fair degree of coverage in the mainstream corporate media, so we're pleased to see this exposure for the English Democrats and - even though we find one of their statements very uncomfortable - we hope that it will spur members of the wider to public to research their message.

Cor blimey... who'd have thought that the BBC would feature the English Democrats on their news programming, huh? I'm so shocked, I must go and lie down in a dark room and recover.

Meanwhile, frame this... it might not happen again for another five years:


UKIP Leadership Special: Congdon and Batten form a leadership pact

UKIP leadership hopeful Tim Congdon, previously a dark horse outsider but someone who we are seeing a large amount of support for, has issued a statement together with fellow leadership contender Gerard Batten stating that the two have formed a leadership pact.

In a brief form of the statement, Tim Congdon tells potential supporters: "Tim Congdon and Gerard Batten have announced that they will be working together in a joint bid for the leadership of the UK Independence Party. Gerard Batten has decided to stand down and to support the candidature of Tim Congdon. If Tim Congdon is elected Leader of the UK Independence Party, he will appoint Gerard Batten as Deputy Leader and Head of Policy Development."

In his letter to supporters, dated today, Gerard Batten makes reference to one of the big points which Congdon made in his exclusive interview with this blog. He writes: "We decided that at this stage of our Party’s development it would be better for the new Leader to be based in the UK and not have the distraction of attending the Parliament in Brussels and Strasbourg."

Under the agreement, Steven Allison would also be appointed Party Chairman if Congdon were to win the leadership contest.

This is a race that just got a darn sight more interesting...

Thursday, 23 September 2010

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: 9/11 Was An Inside Job

You have to hand it to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad... the man certainly has balls.

Constantly faced with pressure from the world's largest power, the United States - and most of the globe, thinking about it - he's a man who seldom seems to run scared.

And guess what? He's done it again.

Yes, a controversial figure leading a nation with more than a few question marks over their record on human rights - not that we can criticise, after what was done in our name under New Labour.

But one has to take their hat off to a man who can stand up in front of all of the world's leaders at the U.N. and state calmly that 9/11 was an inside job.

The Daily Express online report quotes him as saying that: "some segments within the US government orchestrated the attack to reverse the declining American economy and its grips on the Middle East in order also to save the Zionist regime. The majority of the American people as well as other nations and politicians agree with this view".

Voice of America cites him as claiming that "most people around the world" believe that the atrocity was a staged event, instigated by the U.S. Government.

In the United States, 1317 verified architectural and engineering professionals have signed a petition demanding a fresh and totally independent investigation into the events of 11th September 2001.

Civil liberties around the world have been clamped down upon as a consequence of the New York atrocities, with a global control infrastructure being imposed upon the people by an ever more powerful and remote elite, taking decisions at a global level unfettered by democracy or public opinion.

Wednesday, 22 September 2010

Memo to Tories: If David Cameron has killed your party, join ours!

Poor Conservative Party EU-sceptics. Now the laughing stock of the world.

"Just you wait. David Cameron's only keeping quiet about the EU until he becomes Prime Minister. He'll get us our country back. Just you wait and see!"

Well he hasn't, has he?

And now those poor Conservative Party EU-sceptics are the laughing stock of the world.

Here's what the Wall Street Journal say:

"Almost unnoticed, his MPs have voted for a list of measures that would a few years ago have triggered full-scale Tory war. There was the expansion of justice and home-affairs powers, involving the extension of the so-called European arrest warrant. The European External Action Service—or EU diplomatic service—was nodded through. New regulations for the City of London require the establishment of three pan-European supervisory bodies. This was accepted by the Treasury and if there were protests from the Conservative benches they didn't make much noise. A higher budget for the EU has also been approved."

Their withering analysis concludes: "If it is not the death of U.K. Tory Euroskepticism, it looks a lot like it."

So, sorry to the lovely members of the Conservative Party. Your hearts are in the right place but, first you had David Cameron make a fool of you and second, you're now the laughing stock of the world as a consequence.

But don't worry. Join UKIP. Okay, the party isn't perfect, but instead of bitching about it, join us and change what you don't like from within.

It's the only choice you have left. David Cameron has killed your party, and it survives only in name - may it rest in peace.

Hat tip: Open Europe

Quote of the Day: 22nd September 2010

"And when this no-borders, no 'egoistic' interests, no national interests, supreme Brussels-Strasbourg Soviet Union is built? It will be such a paradise, no doubt, that men such as Herr Giegold will have to build a wall to keep the most dynamic peoples of the world out. Or would that be, keep them in? That's what happened last time. And I can remember when the German border guards would shoot dead anyone who tried to escape from the 'non-egoistic' paradise built in East Germany by such lefties as the forerunners of this Green MEP."

- Mary Ellen Synon, 'Sinister stuff, even without the Stasi accent', in the Daily Mail (note: Daily Mail blogs might not be readable in some versions of Firefox)

...we've said it before and we'll say it again - everyone should track down a copy of John Laughland's The Tainted Source... old copies still float cheaply on Amazon UK. If you want to understand what's happening, that's where to start.

Miliband The Elder's Terrible Twosome: Torture and Treason

So, we're on the eve of discovering which of the two Milband brothers the Labour Party (vomit) has chosen as it's new leader.

This is the person who will become Her Majesty's Leader of the Opposition.

Doesn't it say a lot about the way our country is governed when one of the two - David Miliband - has two of the most serious allegations possible against his name?

Let's start with today's report in The Guardian. We make no assertion of our own. We'll quote the newspaper verbatim, then you can read the article and decide what you feel about it for yourself.

It says: "David Miliband gave MI6 the green light to proceed with intelligence-gathering operations in countries where there was a possible risk of terrorism suspects being tortured, the Guardian has learned."

Here is the rest of the story.

There cannot be anything more serious nor more repugnant to humanity than torture. I do not care what anybody has been suspected of doing; we do not torture. If the human animal has become civilised, it is something that is just not acceptable. It is repugnant on any level of humanity.

We make no allegation against David Miliband - all the question marks next to his name are carried in that article in The Guardian. Read it and judge it for yourself.

The other high crime where we do openly accuse David Miliband is on the matter of treason.

Again, we'll tell you why we say it - read it for yourself.

We know that David Miliband had involvement in discussions leading up to the signing of the Lisbon Treaty. We know that he signed the ruddy thing. We know from places such as the German Constitutional Court which examined this question that a huge and overwhelming percentage of domestically imposed laws now originate with the European Empire and - short of leaving the EU - there is nothing that our Parliament can do about any of them.

Well, what does treason have to do with this?

Here is the case, as set out by the Treason Felony Act 1848.

It says that the high crime of treason - punishable by life imprisonment - will have been committed when someone has acted to: "compass, imagine, invent, devise, or intend" to "put any force or constraint upon or in order to intimidate or overawe both Houses or either House of Parliament."

Now, the agents colluded with in order to commit those acts do not have to be a "foreigner or stranger" - though, coupled with the national written constitutional document of the Bill of Rights 1689 which quite clearly states that "...no foreign prince, person, prelate, state or potentate hath or ought to have any jurisdiction, power, superiority, pre-eminence or authority, ecclesiastical or spiritual, within this realm." - then one might have thought the case was quite a strong and serious one.

But no. He may well become Leader of Her Majesty's Opposition tomorrow.

Yet if you drop a cigarette end on the floor, you could end up in prison.

And that, ladies and gents, is why this country is in the awful ruddy state that it is in.

The ruling elite - career politicians - now govern over us with impunity.

UPDATE: See also - Daily Mail

Tuesday, 21 September 2010

Poll Tax II..? If you tolerate this, then your children will be ****ed

The story first surfaced a week or two ago. However, it was pointed at and ridiculed by Alex Jones with guest Max Keiser on the former's globally popular talk show yesterday. And today, the Daily Mail discusses plans to make employers send ALL of your wages to the taxman so that deductions can be made directly and THEN anything that is left will be passed on to you.

Look, in a slight variation on the title of the Manic Street Preachers song, 'if you tolerate this, then your children will be ****ed'.

All the civil liberties stuff under ZaNuLiebour - now the TweedleDee and TweedleDum of the LibDems and the Conservatives come up with this ludicrous idea.

Stop.

Ever wondered if they aren't just testing? Just wondering exactly how pathetic and docile the British are? Wondering exactly how much they can get away with pushing us until we finally decide to tear our lazy, apathetic backsides away from X Factor..?

Look, really, if this proposal goes through... we're finished as far as the notion of freedom and liberty is concerned.

When the Government controls your income directly, you are not enjoying freedom and liberty any more. You are little more than a slave. Sorry, but that's the horrible truth of the situation. Think about it.



Monday, 20 September 2010

London still loves Boris (jealous, Dave?)

The Evening Standard reports that London's Mayor - Conservative Boris Johnson - is still enjoying popularity in London... in fact, he's more loved here than ever.

The newspaper reports on the findings of it's survey - conducted by ComRes in conjunction with ITV news show London Tonight and radio broadcaster LBC - and states: "Boris Johnson's hopes of a second term as Mayor were boosted today by a poll showing he is more popular than both of his Labour rivals put together."

The poll has Boris on 45%; Ken Livingstone on 27% and Oona King on 9%.

While doing very well in the slightly (!) leafier suburbs, Boris is even ahead in Inner London - 33% to Ken's 32%.

So, what does this tell us?

Well, it will be food for thought for David Cameron, for one.

In Inner London, the Conservatives failed to make a breakthrough at the General Election.

An area with a very high number of people from immigrant communities (which once led the BNP's Nick Griffin to describe London as having been "ethnically cleansed"), it was these Inner London seats that most stubbornly again returned Labour MPs and contributed to the Coalition forced upon the Conservatives.

So then, what to make of the enduring popularity of Boris Johnson in these areas and throughout London - at the expense of Ken Livingstone?

After all, Ken Livingstone's own popularity was such that he famously thrashed the official Labour candidate to win the job of London Mayor when he stood as an independent.

And he's nowhere near rivalling the popularity of Boris Johnson.

It is something for the Conservative Party HQ to have to process - and will be a personal source of discomfort to the Prime Minister.

After all, here is Boris Johnson, happily proving himself to be highly popular; a winner where David Cameron could only be a loser.

Nick Clegg, the Great Dictator?

Lib Dem MP Mike Hancock has written a letter to Nick Clegg, warning: "...we are going beyond the coalition agreement without it being referred back to the democratic structures of the party. I am sure you agree with me that we must not have dictatorship of the party by 20 Lib Dem ministers."

But Mike, what else did you expect?

Your leader is a fully paid up member of that other Great Dictatorship known as the European Empire - they who decide everything by secret committee and which then issues it's decrees... to hell with the people!

Your leader knew what he was doing when he ordered Lib Dem MPs to sit on their hands over the Lisbon Treaty referendum, knowing that the Parliamentary arithmetic was on the side of the Brown-Miliband treachery if he did so.

Your leader, the champion of sham public consultation exercises.

Your leader wrote in The Guardian, on quitting his nice job in Brussels, that he was coming back to Britain to make us fall in the love with the undemocratic project. A 'fail' there, but still the 'project' continues without relent.

Now your leader has a nice job as Deputy Prime Minister - though besides getting paid for it, nobody has a clue what it is that he actually does.

And we would like to ask your leader whether he expects to get a pension from Brussels... because if he does, it comes with strings attached and defending the British national interest against the European Empire project cuts most of them.

So, you think there's an element of dictatorship creeping into the Lib Dem frontbench, Mr. Hancock..?

We're surprised that you're surprised. Where did your leader learn most of his political art again? Oh yeah... Brussels.

Sunday, 19 September 2010

Sunday Paper Review: 19th September 2010

So, apart from a free Kylie CD in the Mail on Sunday, you're probably wondering if there's anything worth looking at the Sunday papers for, right? Maybe not. But as you're here...

Now you may remember, not so long ago, our utter disdain for a certain Miliband and Brown combo who decided that there was no discussion to be had on "man made global warming" (which was hastily rebranded as 'climate change'). Instead, they decided to demonise people who wanted to discuss the science using the holocaust-evoking label of "deniers" and "flat earthers".

Here we go again.

Liberal Democrat MP Simon Hughes has resorted to the same brand of politics (and what end of the political spectrum is he on? Surprised?), using insults in place of debate. In an interview with the Independent on Sunday he says of the referendum on AV: "It is an entirely winnable campaign but only if we are really clear that people defending first-past-the-post are Neanderthal."

We dedicate the following classic eighties track to him.

His boss, meanwhile - LibDem leader Nick Clegg - is in The Observer, gushing forth about how: "If you really want to know the truth, I think we have helped release the inner Liberal in a fair number of Conservatives."

Yeah, sorry. I should have warned you about that. I spat coffee out all over my keyboard, as well.

The Sunday Telegraph carries Lord Ashcroft's thoughts as to why the Conservative Party failed to win a thumping majority at the last election. He doesn't blame UKIP, nor does he blame 'Cast Iron' Dave and his liberal eco-evangelism. In fact, it's difficult, having read the article, to say just what Lord Ashcroft blames. Something to do with Labour having a better attack than the Conservatives had defence. Or maybe we were reading the footie pages at the same time. Who can say?

According to the Mail on Sunday, Lord Voldemort - Peter Mandelson - has no such qualms on describing what caused Labour to crash to electoral defeat. Okay, he doesn't talk about the endless erosion of civil liberties, the treachery over the European Empire, the illegal wars or so on, but he does say that Labour lost due to Ed Miliband's: "crowd-pleasing Guardianista' manifesto" that "offered nothing to people worried about immigration, housing and welfare scroungers".

Ahhh, Mandelson. Don't you miss him already? A bit like in the same way that you miss the tooth that the dentist extracted - even though you're damn well pleased not to be suffering the agony of it any more.

If all these stories leave you feeling a little lacking, don't fear. The Sunday Express reports that Tesco is to sell anti-impotence viagra at it's stores - without the need for a prescription.

However, quite what the store has in mind to check the suitability of would-be customers for the product is mind baffling. The store brand complies with that adopted by all other British supermarkets, of course, challenging people of pensionable age to prove they are old enough to buy a quiche. We exaggerate, but only just.

Making a sharp exit back to politics (just!), The People informs us that: "David Miliband's lounge is dominated by a huge painting of 13 naked dancing girls."

Are you going to tell her, or shall I..?

And finally, the News of the World reports on how Prince Charles gets very upset if people think of him as potty... before claiming he ducks below windows at Highgrove to eavesdrop on visitors.

...and they thought Diana was paranoid? Except she wasn't. She was right every time, wasn't she?

Saturday, 18 September 2010

Detoxifying the 'right wing' and why the British Tea Party revolution has this blog's support

Saturday's Daily Telegraph had an article highlighting the next step in the fledgling British 'tea party' campaign.

From much conversation and no materialisation, it seems the concept of a 'tea party' movement in Britain now has genuine potential momentum due to an alliance between The Freedom Association and The Taxpayers Alliance to propel the revolution forward. These are two groups whose work this blogger has personally often thought upon very positively.

So, what is the agenda of the 'tea party' movement? How would it's aims mirror those of this blog? Isn't it a movement for right wing, hate-fuelled prejudice?

You know, this whole 'left-right' thing really does need a lot more reclaiming as a label by those of us painted as being on the political 'right'.

'Left' and 'right' are incredibly lazy terms and while I cannot see any rush for the mainstream media to embrace the alternatives put forward in Gerald Warner's recent excellent article on the topic, we can at least make sure we detoxify the 'right wing' label.

How? Well firstly, we must ensure that anytime anyone claims that the BNP are a 'right wing extremist' party, we correct them. Anybody who actually looks at the BNP's policies will see that they are actually incredibly 'left' of centre (under traditional definitions). It's a socialist party which strongly believes in State ownership and interventionism.

So, the next thing we need to do if the British 'tea party' gains momentum and is dubbed 'right wing' in the mainstream media is to embrace the label and state proudly: Yes we are!

The lesbian and gay communities did this very well when they learned to embrace the word 'queer' - once used as a derogatory, offensive insult.

Black and Asian communities have also, to varying degrees, 'reclaimed' words that were once used as offensive insults against them.

So it must be with the label 'right wing'. If the lazy media cannot think of a better term to describe an outlook on the way life should be, then we should reclaim the term as a source of celebration.

For me - defined as 'right wing' on the 'Total Politics' blog database - my political outlook is this:

- Small government, limited in scope, operated at a local level
- The principles of common law are superior to any statute
- No man should be the boss of another; a limited number of peace officers should exist to address complaints of loss and harm; that is all
- A man should be entitled to freedom, liberty and privacy in all things
- Man should be able to go about most things without the state seeking to regulate, with threat of punishment, the activity of that freeborn man
- No office, appointed or elected, nor any fancy costume makes anyone more important than anyone else. We are all equal humans.

No huge taxes. No umpteen layers of Government making up jobs for career politicians who have never had a proper job in their lives.

In much of this, though not all, my aims are being espoused by the fledgling British 'tea party' movement.

One of my other beliefs - that land ownership is a bizarre idea that lacks rational legitimacy - is probably unlikely to be represented. But come on... how can you own huge chunks of a planet? Said who..? In the animal kingdom, dominant animals mark territory with a scent, but they can never truly 'own' it...

That aside, I like the idea of and the principles of the British 'tea party' movement.

Look, the traditional left is the politics of intervention, of interfering, of busy-bodying, of social engineering, of sticking a great big oar in where it is not wanted.

The politics of the traditional 'right' is the politics of 'leave us alone!'.

And as someone on the 'right', I'd give the majority of people a damn-sight far more freedom and liberty back than any of their 'left wing' icons.

The 'left' dominated media won't like a British 'tea party' movement. They'll shout 'right wing' at it with a great frequency. But they use the term as an offensive insult towards a group of people they do not like, rather than describing anything that we small 'c' conservative libertarians stand for or represent.

We should use the opportunity to cleanse the term and educate people on what 'left' and 'right' really mean.

What a great combination - a campaign for less Government and interference, an opportunity to educate people beyond what the media misrepresent, and a chance to detoxify and demystify the wholesome values behind the label of 'right wing'.

How appropriate, given the known antiseptic qualities of tea...

Quote of the Day: 18th September 2010

"There are some good people standing, but there are some idiots as well. As things stand, some of the idiots are going to get in, most likely female idiots. That's going to be an issue for the next leader."

- an unnamed male member of the Labour Shadow Cabinet, cited in the Daily Telegraph, talking about the characters jockeying for position for the new Labour frontbench

Idiots? Should appeal to the Labour core vote...

I'm not the brightest spark, but even I can spot that someone must be winning while seven billion are heading into misery

There's a story on the website of the Daily Telegraph under the headline: "Ireland IMF bail-out rumours spook markets". Which got me thinking...

Now, it would be easy to take the cheap shot joke route and ask the Irish: "Ha ha! Tell us why you voted 'yes' to Lisbon the second time, again?" - but that would be pointless. The Irish simply caved in, knowing that they would be forced to keep on voting until they caved in.

However, that newspaper story is illustrated by a photograph of union demonstrations in Ireland during 2009. Which look similar to images from Greece. Hungary's economy has been buggered. Spain is mortgaging it's future to pay off debts. We in the UK are warned we're going to go through massive cuts. The United States is going all semi-revolutionary with the election of 'tea party' candidates.

In fact, it seems that - all over the world - everybody is utterly and totally up the creek without a paddle.

Now, this might be a simplistic analogy, but...

For every loser, there is a winner. Where there's a yin, there's a yang.

Nope. While the news media tells us that everybody, everywhere - seven billion people - are all doomed to despair, that cannot be true. Somebody is winning at our expense somewhere. Has to be.

So, who are the winners?

Let's start with this massive global debt. Who is it being paid to?

And where did they get it from to lend out in the first place?

Only, thinking about it, just the very notion of inflation suggests to me that most of this debt that the taxpayer of almost every nation on the planet is being fleeced into paying...

...could never possibly have existed, could it?

And if it never existed, why are we paying back what we could not possibly really owe?

And what would happen if every nation on the planet which is being fleeced for this non-existant debt - most of us - were to just put out a statement tomorrow declaring ourselves bankrupt? What would happen?

Would some doddery old bloke from some global banking organisation come and get us? What? All seven billion of us? Him and whose army?

So, forgive me for being simple, but why don't we - every nation on the planet - all simply ignore them?

We're only in a global depression because we're consenting to our own misery.

Friday, 17 September 2010

Found! A Tory trying to make things right for tortured smokers!

Goodness gracious, would you Adam & Eve it?

Over at Taking Liberties is news that Conservative MP David Nuttall has tabled a motion in the House of Commons which proposes: "That leave be given to bring in a Bill to exempt public houses and private members’ clubs from the requirements of Part 1 of the Health Act 2006 relating to smoke-free premises; and for connected purposes."

Hallelujah.

Shame that the vast majority of his fellow MPs remain spineless, totalitarian, anti-choice cowards hiding away in their almost completely self-imposed redundant Parliament.

However, that aside, we applaud David Nuttall MP very loudly and - while his political flag is nailed to the mast of a different party from that supported by this blog, he can count on our support in any way that becomes clear.

Everyone else..? Write to your MP. They are duty bound to represent you. All of you. They'll no doubt fob you off in the majority of cases - deferring to their own prejudices and ludicrous tribal party lines, but on their own conscience be it...

Oh, and the pub industry needs to get off it's backside and pressure Parliament. Up to them, of course. But on their own survival the reversal of the smoking ban depends... and if, as business folk, THEY don't yet see it, then they deserve the demise the industry is enduring.

Simples.

Oh dear. Abysmal UKIP local election results demonstrate need for wise choice on leader

At the end of August, this blog took great delight in trumpeting some stunning UKIP local election results in Sheffield and South Bucks.

So, it gives me no pleasure - as a member of the party and as someone that the UKIP hierarchy have been very generous to over the last fortnight - to have to present some utterly abysmal results of locals that are out today.

The Independent has all the details, but the headline figures for UKIP are:

Cambridgeshire County - East Chesterton: 18 votes, 1.8%, finishing last and - humiliatingly - beaten by the Cambridge Socialists. Down from 9.8% in June 2009.

Kensington and Chelsea London Borough - Cremorne: 46 votes, 3.1%, finishing last behind the Greens. We can at least find a positive here. When the seat was last contested in May 2009 and three seats were up for grabs, the sole UKIP candidate garnered just 1.8% of the vote. On the other hand, the physical number of votes on that occasion was at least in three digit territory - 155 votes.

So, two local by-elections. 18 votes and 46 votes respectively. Most people have extended families which could return a higher vote count than those figures.

I do not wish to pay any disrespect to the local candidates who are, without question, dedicated and enthusiastic, hard-working and committed party loyalists who should be thanked and praised.

However, while I accept that we currently have no party leader spelling out our vision, we have to accept these two results are dreadful. Awful.

Whoever takes on the victory garland in the UKIP leadership campaign is going to have to really radicalise the party's approach, to make the party relevant to people in their local communities. Sure, it is perfectly true to say that European Empire diktats govern local life as much as they do national politics - but examples of this need to be given by people who are clued up on local issues and can demonstrate to the local electorate how and why a decision which has an impact on their experience of daily living has been made.

Loyal local branches which are managed by really hard-working volunteers deserve more for their efforts than the demoralisation that going home with eighteen votes must generate.

We could start, perhaps, by examining what went well in those by-elections at the end of August with what has clearly gone disastrously wrong in these latest local endeavours.

This needs to be a two-way process. Not only do UKIP's hierarchy need to compare and contrast the local efforts and experiences, but the local branches need to communicate back up the chain what has actually happened here.

Certainly, we're not going to change the world - or restore our position as a sovereign state - if we're only seen as giving the right messages and being relevant to local daily life by eighteen people within a local ward.

Quiz Question: Which former Speaker publicly used the word 'treason' in relation to the European Empire?

Which former Speaker publicly used the word 'treason' in relation to the European Empire?

The answer can be found in the following video, stumbled upon on YouTube, put out by Sir James Goldsmith and The Referendum Party in 1997.


So there you go - former Speaker of the House of Commons Viscount Tonypandy clearly referred to the high crime of treason...

- The utterly inspiring Albert Burgess and his supporters reported back in July that: "Special Branch in Norfolk Constabulary, have said treason has been reported in six force areas and one force has refered the papers to the Crown Prosection Service in London, to see whether a prima facie case of treason has been made out."

Thursday, 16 September 2010

Why the UKIP leadership election matters... even to non-UKIP voters

Over the last few days, we have been very proud to present three exclusive interviews with contenders for the UKIP leadership. The nominations list is still open and we will try to interview more hopefuls in the race - though we can't promise, obviously.

Just before getting on to the main point, I have to say that - having met the three candidates that have been interviewed, all three have been extremely warm, welcoming and kind towards this blogger... and I do mean that, genuinely. They are also, as no doubt you'll have grasped from the interviews, very different personalities and characters bringing different values and talents to the table.

Extreme thanks go to David Campbell Bannerman, Tim Congdon and Nigel Farage for being brave and forward looking enough to embrace the alternative media which the blogosphere provides.

UKIP members have a genuine choice. Unlike the Labour contest - where they even managed to have two DNA-sharing, Marxist-descendant main rivals - the UKIP race has genuine choice and options.

We are going to play the race strictly neutral - this is a choice for UKIP members, true - but it also will play a huge part in shaping British politics.

What are the alternatives for shaping our future?

We could allow globalists, quangos, bankers, and no-end of unelected and sometimes secretive organisations to shape our nation above the heads of the electorate and the taxpayer.

We could allow the Labour Party back in - with all the usual 'left-wing', totalitarian, micro-managing, civil liberty hell-inducing, immigrant led electoral gerrymandering which that particular party would - to be sure - once again inflict upon this country. Result? The death of Britain and our freedom.

We could return the Conservatives - who might be 'conservative' by name but are not 'conservative' by nature. It was the Conservatives who signed the nation away to Europe under Ted Heath's lies. It was the Conservatives who signed up to Maastricht. It was this Conservative-in-Coalition Government which signed up to the European Investigation Order. No matter their promises in opposition, they have a track record of selling us down the pan on Europe. Result? The death of Britain and our freedom.

We could return the Liberal Democrats. A rampant EU-loving party led by a man who wrote an article saying that he was quitting as an MEP to come to Britain and make us fall in love with his Brussels masters. A party that is so 'liberal' that their leader quite enjoys things like the smoking ban to the point that they destroyed the value of their own sham public consultation exercise - no matter what the people think. Result? The death of Britain and our freedom.

At the local level, we have MPs. These people do not represent us once we vote them in. The overwhelming majority spend almost all of their time traipsing through the voting lobbies on a purely tribal basis, irrespective of the views of constituents and probably rarely in line with their own true conscience. Result? The death of Britain and our freedom.

We are kept in a false left-right paradigm. That's a theme that needs further analysis than will be explored here, for now.

Yet the language of the people is changing. The Trade Unions - who would have more sympathy from us if they were to stop propping up the stench that is the Labour Party - are threatening all kinds of strikes and civil disobedience campaigns.

A quick scoot around the small 'c' conservative newspapers and EU-sceptic blogs shows that the anger about the treacherous betrayal of our nation is growing at an alarming rate. Sure, the opposition to being dictated to by continental European powers is not a new phenomenon. However, the language is becoming more anger-filled.

We have so many very difficult political positions in this country, and the people have still not really found their voice to have their say. It will happen.

In the U.S., the 'tea party' movement is gradually shattering the Republican-Democratic baton passing excuse for representation of the people. We're sadly a bit behind that.

But the quicksand of public awaked-ness seems to be shifting. We all have a sense of how corrupt and untrustworthy the political class are. We all know that our views are not represented - no matter our tribal affiliations.

We all know that something has to change - sooner or later. People need an alternative to get behind and vote for.

This blog will always support a small government, freedom-minded party and UKIP is the best option currently.

Those with other political views will also be looking for somewhere to place their 'X'... if they vote at all.

As far as the Conservatives, Labour and the LibDems are concerned, one must think of the old saying: "Don't vote for any of them - you'll only encourage them."

All the indicators are that the globally engineered (cheaper wages, higher profits for the few) economic crisis has no imminent end - and the people will not like the discomfort that brings.

The people will hopefully soon look at the Conservatives, Labour and the LibDems and think 'a plague on all their houses'.

When they do - which is tempered by a touch of optimism, obviously - they will need alternatives. If the U.S. 'tea party' movement is translating to the ballot box, it could happen here.

Should 'change' - not of the xerox-ed Obama or Cameron variety - but real change be desired by the people, then they will need alternatives.

And that's why the UKIP leadership election really does matter.

We are proud to have played a role in the discussions that the important choice facing the party needs.

Wednesday, 15 September 2010

UKIP Leadership Special: The Talking Clock interviews David Campbell Bannerman MEP - EXCLUSIVE!

Following the first two exclusive UKIP leadership contest interviews, The Talking Clock is proud to again continue assisting UKIP members in their decision - and inform the wider public about the characters involved in the race to lead Britain's fourth biggest party.

We invited all of the leadership hopefuls to spell out, through The Talking Clock, their vision for the party and where they stand on a number of issues of interest to our readership.

Today, we present for you, our EXCLUSIVE interview with David Campbell Bannerman MEP.


Transcript:

Note - in order to present a level playing field, this is a verbatim transcript. It has not been tidied to erase speech hesitations and is as accurate a record of every word as is possible.

The first obvious question is why do you want to be leader of UKIP?

Well, I think what’s important about leadership of the party is where the next leader takes it. I think we have to look ahead these four years, the strategy has to be right – that’s what this is all about, I mean, personalities are important – yes, but really this is about strategy; who has the best vision for the party and what I believe in is a vision where we can achieve twenty MPs, thirty elected peers, and be the largest UK party in the European Parliament.

I believe we can achieve that, but we have to be more professional, we have to be more focussed and we have to work harder to achieve that objective but, errrm, I believe that is achievable and I’m already working on a lobbying campaign to try and get AV+, that could get us these twenty MPs – that’s Alternative Vote Plus – I’m already working on some various other things like Positive Vision that will get this message across. We have enormous potential, but we’ve got to be more professional to realise that vision.

So, what would you say are the main things that you would offer to the party if you were to win the leadership race?

Well I hope it’s a mixture of the vision I’ve touched on and experience. I mean, my experience: I’ve worked in Government as a special adviser on the Northern Ireland peace process – right at the top, working in Number Ten; I was Chairman of the Bow Group – a think tank of a hundred MPs; I’ve been a local councillor, I’ve fought loyally for UKIP in a number of General Elections and Scottish Parliamentary elections, I’ve fought in European elections and local elections as well and got, obviously, I was elected as an MEP.

So it’s experience, I think it’s experience of politics and of a strategy and of communications. I believe that we can realise that vision of twenty MPs, thirty elected peers, the largest UK party in the European Parliament but it will take proper professionalisation of the party, proper use of strategy and proper hard work and energy to do that.

So, how prepared are you for the media scrutiny that the leadership role would bring?

Oh, it’s inevitable. I enjoy the media, I’ve been on Newsnight, I’ve been opposite John Humphrys a couple of times on the Today programme, done all BBC News, Channel Four, ITV, local TV and radio as well – I’m very comfortable with the media; my style is different to certain other people that go on the media, errrm, but I’m told I come across well and I’m up for it – I enjoy talking to the media, I – of course, national press as well - I brief and I’ve got good relations with them as well - so, yes, I’m looking forward to the media side.

Do you see the UKIP leadership election as a matter solely for the UKIP members or do you think there will be broader interest in the wider electorate?

I think there will be wider interest, clearly it’s the members who vote and they’re the key people that must decide what they want. My view, as I say, it’s not about personalities, it’s about where – is who has the best strategy? Who has the best vision? I mean, I want to keep Nigel as the face of the party – Nigel Farage as the face of the party, but I think I’m better and professionalising and managing and driving the strategy of the party and I think we could work very well as a team and that’s what I think members actually want now.

So developing that theme, how happy have you been with the direction that UKIP has been heading in and what do you think UKIP has done well so far?

I think UKIP has achieved an awful lot – you know, we’re the largest… well, thirteen MEPS, we’re second only to the Tories in the European Parliament, we increased our vote by fifty percent. This is all good stuff, but you know, what can we achieve by being more professional, more organised, more strategic?

I think, you know, we’re only really touching on the true potential this party has and with the right leader in place that can actually drive the party in the right direction, I think we will achieve great things. But we won’t do this by just sitting on our hands and looking backward, I think that we have to look forward and take it to a higher plane. It’s not about criticising the past, it’s about seizing the opportunities of the future.

So, developing that into specifics going forward, what changes – if any – would you like to see in the UKIP focus?

Well as I say, I want to be more strategic, I want more of a team-based approach – I mean, not just a one-man band, I want to be, you know, have a strong team who are put there on the basis of meritocracy, good people from all backgrounds who can help us achieve our objectives. Specifically, I want a Head of Fundraising based on a commission basis who, who will actually be able to raise big funds for us in a methodical, professional way. I want a Head of Membership Marketing; I do set an objective to raise our membership to fifty thousand over three years.

We should be just behind the Liberals, they’re - the Lib Dems are on about seventy thousand. I reckon UKIP should – as the fourth largest party – we should be fifty thousand. I think a Head of Membership Marketing that knows the techniques of membership organisations can help deliver that and I just think that by professionalising party, working as a team, we can really raise our game and achieve the objectives we set.

So what do you think of the way UKIP is portrayed in the media and is there anything we can do to improve the image and the depth of coverage in the corporate media and, if so, how could that be achieved?

Unfortunately, I do think UKIP is portrayed negatively often. We’re accused of - of being… ummm… slightly sort of loony, we’re accused of being slightly racist – well, we’re neither of those things, we’re definitely not racist, we’re nowhere are we anything near like the BNP and I want to make that absolutely clear.

I mean, I want a Party Chairman in Abhijit Pandya who is there on merit - he is an LSE Prof… a Fellow, I beg your pardon, an LSE Fellow lecturing in international trade. I want him as the Party Chairman of UKIP because he would be brilliant in terms of arguing our case on free trade agreements and the Commonwealth and the opportunities in the Commonwealth and I think it would send out a message that you know, we are – you know – we are a broadly based party.

I think in terms of media, we just have to get across our messages more effectively and we need to knock down this more left-wing bias against us which says, you know - we’re ‘extreme’… we’re not extreme. Remember that we represent the majority of the British people. Even the BBC polls last year put us at fifty-five percent of the British people want to leave the European Union – umm, we represent the majority and we’re a common sense party with common sense solutions.

Talking about the levels of potential UKIP electoral support, how would you hope to excite and energise the public to vote positively for the party?

Well, as people probably know, I generated seventeen policy groups based on the talent – there’s huge talent in UKIP, some really key people. We produced a great manifesto which went down very well. I believe in policies. Some of the other candidates don’t believe in policies, I’m afraid this to me is a contest about whether we’re going to carry on with policies and be a proper political party or fall back into the single issue of the past – I don’t believe in being a single issue group, we’ll never appeal to the grass… to the majority of the British people by doing that.

We need policies right across the field to be relevant. Because when professional pollsters like MORI ask the British people what they’re interested in, what their top issues are, I’m afraid it isn’t the EU – it is health and education and crime and the economy and immigration – but of course, we all know the EU has a huge impact on all of those areas. So when we’re talking those policies we’re talking EU. But only by having policies are we relevant and we’re lost without that. It’s no good people mouthing platitudes about policy. If they don’t believe in policy, they cannot take this party forward.

Staying with UKIP internal politics for a moment, what would you like to see the UKIP branches differently and what are they doing well?

Well there’s a huge amount of loyalty and devotion and hard work from our branches. I believe they need more support, more communication, more training. I’m a great believer, when I talk about professionalising the party, it’s not about bringing in paid professionals – it’s about adopting more professional techniques and, you know, I was recently involved in assessment for Welsh candidates for the Welsh Assembly; that was very encouraging because we could identify areas where training could make a huge difference to our performance and make our candidates feel better.

We have to roll this out right across the UK and mean it, you know, our candidates need support, they’ve got the policies now, I’m going to do a lot more help on the policy front explaining how they can be used in campaigning, as campaign tools – but training will make a huge difference and financing, obviously, and general support and communications; all of these things will help people at a local level do better in their local elections.

What role does UKIP’s youth wing – Young Independence – play in your vision for the party?

Oh, very central. I think the young people… I was very inspired; I always have been by Young Independence. We have a lot of young people coming through who are very articulate, clever, principled young people and I’m, you know, I take huge heart from that – it’s very, very important.

I’ve really, I’m really honoured that so many have joined because we have policies other than to do with the EU, you know. The Chairman joined because he believes in grammar schools, for example, and this – by broadening the base and appealing right across the board, we can attract a lot of young people who are disenchanted with the EU but also want to hear about other policies, not just the EU – and that’s the way we want to go, I want to fund them properly, I want to ensure that we reach out through the universities, with university stands and something I really believe in – Fresher’s Fairs, showing the face of UKIP and attracting young talent into the party.

Okay, we said we want to talk about things other than the EU, but it won’t surprise you to learn there are a couple of questions on it…

Yes…

Polls obviously show the majority of British people are against it - I’m sure I don’t need to tell that to you - but if Parliament is supposed to represent the will of the people, how did we get here?

Well, we were lied to, errrm… Ted Heath said there’d be no loss of sovereignty by joining the then Common Market; that was a blatant lie. British politicians have lied blatantly because a lot of the British people are not with this project and only wanted trade. Now, in my view, we could keep the trade quite happily with a free trade agreement, a Swiss style model, errrm… and we can keep the benefits of free trade with the EU but we do not want the politics. Super trade, yes; superstate, no – and we’ve got to get that message across, but basically, we have a political class in Britain that has been lying to us year after year.

We have to expose those lies and we have to knock down the myths that we can’t leave the EU or it’ll cost three million jobs, that’s something I’m going to be doing with this Positive Vision project. Let’s knock down those myths and sell a positive, uplifting, common sense solution based on an independent Britain.

Some detractors of UKIP still label the party as a “one trick pony” despite this very comprehensive manifesto at the last General Election. So, away from the EU, what is the first thing that would go into your manifesto?

Well, errrm, I think, I mean the economy is the top, top issue at the moment and you can put immigration number two, so you take those.

The economy; no tax on minimum wage. You know, we’re not just an alternate Tory party – we must appeal to the Labour voter. I worked on the Norwich by-election, we hit the council estates in Norwich North and we did very well – we got the highest ever by-election result for UKIP by doing so. But no tax on minimum wage – that gives people an incentive to work, takes them out of benefits, rewards them properly and that’s fair and important. I think if you want to create jobs, scrapping National Insurance for employers over five years – twenty percent a year over five years – that is a huge incentive. I think where I criticise the Coalition government at the moment is that, yeah, they are cutting back on the public sector – quite rightly. However, what are they doing to generate jobs; to stimulate the economy? Nothing it seems, to me, and that is something we’ve got to focus on – you know, those two areas – I think incentivising work and creating jobs, you know, helping businesses create jobs, is absolutely essential to the economy.

And then immigration, the second one – well, we’ve got a comprehensive set of policies on immigration. We basically, we’ve got to manage and control immigration, get a grip on it, treat every immigrant the same – whether they’re from the EU or non-EU, let’s not discriminate against non-EU and let’s put a cap on the numbers, and use work permits – by all means, come in but you’ll only come in if we need the skills you have to offer.

Different topic – does the West Lothian Question require an answer?

Yes, it does. I’m very pro-the Union and I’m glad we are the U.K. Independence Party and it always will remain pro-Union under me.

What I believe on the West Lothian Question is something I’ve promoted over the last few years and that is that you strip out the national MPs or Assembly members like the AM’s in Wales - the sixty AM’s, the 129 MSPs in the Scottish Parliament – and you replace them with the national representatives from Westminster. So, I’ve been round the Scottish Parliament, it only meets about eight days a month now – it’s meant to be full-time and a lot of those days are short days; you can do it in a week. So, one week in every month, the English Parliament meets.

What’s the English Parliament? It’s not a new building; it’s actually just English MPs meeting in Westminster – Scottish MPs meeting in the Scottish Parliament, Welsh MPs in the Welsh Assembly and the Northern Ireland Assembly, MPs meeting there as well from Northern Ireland. That would reunite the UK and it would be just a common-sense solution.

And the English – you know, it’s really more of an ‘English Question’. The English need to be treated properly. Then get rid of the Barnett Formula, be fair to England, treat them the same way as the rest of the UK.

Is the UK a police state?

Well, unfortunately, it is going that way. I mean, the European Arrest Warrant – a lot of our MEPs have done good work on that to highlight that – but it is very scary that we can be arrested now in the UK on the basis of crimes that don’t even exist in the UK. And be carted off – never mind Habeas Corpus, never mind the British legal system. This is why we’re overridden because under the EU Arrest Warrant, every EU legal system is as good as any other. Of course, that’s not the case and I’ve been in the Royal Courts of Justice – the Andrew Symeou case – and it’s scary to see, you know, where the British judge is unable to stop, unable to look at the evidence – prima facie evidence of crimes and they just have to see that the form is filled in properly and people are sent off to foreign jails, you know, to be… to languish there for years on end – that’s appalling.

And then you’ve got the European Investigation Order, just come in – this Coalition Government signed on this. Very similar – allows foreign courts to use our policemen and access to our banking records and our DNA, you know, for foreign crimes, for foreign courts. I mean, this is – this is absolutely appalling and we’ve got to really highlight these civil liberties issues.

Staying on that theme of civil liberties, a lot of people who are authors of ‘neighbouring’ blogs and people who contribute to them are making an increasing reference to common law and saying that aspects of our written constitution are actually being breached…

Yeah…

Do you have any response for them?

Well I mean, I think one needs… – I mean, UKIP sees the bigger picture in all of this. If you’re gonna have a European super state – which all the other parties deny is happening but clearly is the truth, if you have an EU super state then it must have one common system of law. And guess what? It’s not gonna be English law. It’s not gonna be English common law, it’s not going to be Habeas Corpus, it’s not going to be trial by jury – it’s going to be the continental system, Napoleonic Code, and that’s the way it’s going. And this increasingly by the backdoor; our own legal systems – Scotland, Wales, England – are being undermined by this Napoleonic Code and, I see – you know – this is all part of ‘the bigger project’, you know, you’ll need harmonised taxes and you need a harmonised legal system and it’s as clear as daylight to people from UKIP.

Okay, is there anything I’ve not asked you that you would like people to know when considering your candidacy for UKIP leadership?

Thank you, yes. I mean, I think we’ve touched on a lot of areas. I mean, I think – I suppose what I’d like to say is that I do believe that UKIP needs stability in its leadership. The media at conference were mocking the fact that we’ve had four leaders – or gonna have four leaders – in one year. We need stability, you know. Nigel had to step down before the General Election and then we’ve had Lord Pearson; we have an interim leader now, then we get a new leader. All, you know, ‘four leaders in one’ is what they’re saying.

I think we need someone that can stand the course for four years; that has the right vision, and can - clearly the experience – the right kind of experience to deliver that vision. It’s not about personalities; it is about what is the right vision for the party. And I hope that, you know, my track record as Party Chairman, as Deputy Leader, as Head of Policy – writing the manifesto, putting together these policy groups – shows people that I’m not just talk, I am about delivery and can professionalise this party. And I believe that we can actually achieve great things by realising our opportunities.

One slightly more light-hearted question to end with, David – the result of the leadership ballot is going to be announced on November 5th… would you like to comment on the significance of that date?

Well, I would hope that whoever wins would put a non-lethal bomb under Parliament and we’ll have a proper democratic revolution as a result of that ballot...

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Tuesday, 14 September 2010

UKIP Leadership Special: The Talking Clock interviews Nigel Farage MEP - EXCLUSIVE!

Following yesterday's first exclusive UKIP leadership contest interview, The Talking Clock is proud to continue assisting UKIP members in their decision - and inform the wider public about the characters involved in the race to lead Britain's fourth biggest party.

We invited all of the leadership hopefuls to spell out, through The Talking Clock, their vision for the party and where they stand on a number of issues of interest to our readership.

Today, we present for you, our EXCLUSIVE interview with Nigel Farage MEP.


Transcript:

Note - in order to present a level playing field, this is a verbatim transcript. It has not been tidied to erase speech hesitations and is as accurate a record of every word as is possible.

Why do you want to be leader of UKIP again?

Well, I stood down a year ago and I made it clear that I wanted to have a proper crack at John Bercow – of course, what I didn’t know then was that Cameron was going to endorse him which rather spoilt that particular party.

Being leader of UKIP is a heck of a difficult thing to do. I took it over in 2006 when it was at a very low ebb indeed and we had to very slowly try and build the thing up from the bottom. We had to, generally, try and find some new people to take on administrative roles and whilst I think we did take the party forward we didn’t take it forward as far as I would have liked.

Everything takes time but you know now, we’ve had a General Election, despite the fact – you know, up fifty percent but it wasn’t brilliant – the party is united, it’s determined, we’ve just had a fantastic conference, it can see the opportunity and I want to take over the leadership of UKIP now and I want to do it completely differently to the way I did it last time.

I am not running to be a manager or a Managing Director as I was before. Before, it was like being the MD of a company. Every piece of paper from every department came across my desk. I won’t do any of that. I will not be running UKIP, I have no interest in running UKIP.

I want to lead UKIP. I want to give political leadership and I’m going to announce during the course of the hustings, in a few weeks time, a new structure with a Chief Executive at the top – somebody with a proven record of success in P.R. and marketing and business and somebody who is a dedicated UKIP-er and let’s have a Chief Executive who runs the party, accountable to the NEC on a once a month basis and leave me to do what I think I’m good at which is media, giving the right messages, and raising money.

So that leads me quite neatly into the next question which is what would you say are the main things that you personally offer to the party?

To a lot of people, out there on Main Street, you know - when they hear the word UKIP, a lot of them associate it with me. Now you can say that’s a good thing or a bad thing depending on your point of view, but I do believe I’ve got that public recognition and the reason I’ve got it isn’t because I’ve appeared on television. The reason I’ve got it is because I’ve said things and I’ve couched things in a form of language that people understand and agree with and I think my asset, my biggest asset for the party is that I’m able – through the media – to reach millions of people who, if they’re not already voting UKIP will think about voting UKIP.

I’ve faced plenty of short pitched, hostile bowling over the years. I mean, having said that, you know, there is no room for complacency. I was a trader before I did this and the saying in the City ‘you’re only as good as your last trade’ is absolutely right and it’s the same with media. You know, anybody can go onto Question Time and bomb. So I don’t, because I’ve done lots of it and because in the main it’s gone quite well, don’t think that I turn up for these programmes with a totally blasĂ© attitude. Probably nobody works harder in preparing for these things than I do.

Bearing in mind that rather horrific ‘plane accident which I think is quite miraculous that you walked away from…

Totally. Totally extraordinary…

How recovered from that experience are you to take on the workload?

Mentally, I’m fine and that’s the most important thing. In fact in some ways, mentally, I’m probably fitter than I’ve been for ten years. I’ve just had three months off! I mean, albeit, some of it with a bit of pain but I’ve had three months off, I’ve lost a stone in weight, I’ve spent time at home, I’ve seen a bit more of my children, I’ve had time to think which is something that I, you know, I haven’t had much of over the last few years and no, I am fit.

I’m mentally fit. I feel well. The sternum, the lungs, the ribs – all of that stuff has mended. I have some trouble with the lower back and that means I can’t, physically, at this moment in time do some of the things I did before and I won’t, if I’m leader again be able to charge off round the country getting home at two and three in the morning, night after night – that won’t be possible.

But what UKIP needs is a leader, a political leader, who is in London. This is where the action is. You know, like it or not, this is where the media is. This is where you go out and reach the millions. So I will go out and travel round the regions and in the country but I will have to do it differently and I’ve got to start looking after myself a bit. I mean, I had a bit of a reputation all through my life for being a bit of a party animal and that of course, that’s entirely true! But I think firstly, you know, one gets a bit older and secondly, after an experience like this, I probably now go to bed at eleven o’clock rather than two o’clock. So, I can cope.

So, is the UKIP leadership election a matter solely for UKIP members or do you think that the leadership election would have interest in the wider electorate as well?

I think it will have wider interest and I think that the media are likely to reflect upon that during the campaign. I don’t think this leadership election will be ignored by the newspapers and the BBC. I think people will look at the characters that are involved and will make comment so, yeah - this is not gonna be a purely in-house affair even though the voters will be purely in-house. I think we will see media comment as the campaign develops.

Have you been happy with the direction UKIP has been heading in and what do you think UKIP has done well so far?

Oh, I think what we’ve done well so far is to establish the brand. That may sound like – believe you me, all through the nineties you know, you stood in elections for UKIP, ‘Who are you? Never heard of them!’. We’ve established the brand. We’ve established what we stand for – on the European question, or perhaps what we stand against, I mean, you know, one would like to turn it round a bit more to what we stand for. So that we’ve done. No question. We have been able to build a party with a network and a structure across the country - despite repeated attempts to sabotage us and bring us down - we’ve managed to do that.

What we haven’t yet done is we haven’t yet made the transfer to being seen to be relevant in different kinds of elections and we need to be seen to be relevant in domestic elections and one of the ways that I will try and turn that around is there’s been too little emphasis on local elections.

You know, UKIP-ers think ‘To hell with that! We’re gonna form the next Government.’ Actually, we’re not going to form any Government at all. We’re not going to win any seats in Westminster unless we start winning district and county council by-elections and seats. That is the way that you build up, that is the way that, at a local level, you began to be looked at as a possible winner and so that’s one of things that I will push very hard and when it comes to fighting elections, I will try and lead by example. I mean, I think the last four General Elections that UKIP have fought, I think I’ve been the lead candidate three times. So, you know, I believe in fighting, I believe in leading from the front and we’ve – as yet – we haven’t made ourselves properly relevant.

Now, we’ve got some good policies and I’m very happy with what we’ve developed on education and tax and various things like that but it’s one thing having policies on the website – it’s another communicating them out and getting millions to understand that’s what you stand for. So that is the next big challenge.

Going forwards, what changes – if any – would you like to see in the UKIP focus? We’ve covered some of those…

Yes…

Anything else you would like to change, going forwards?

I think we have to be positive and I think, I think that positivity is reflected partly on what we say but also in how we say it and I generally think that I have got a fairly upbeat, optimistic tone to life. I think we need to emphasise that we’re not ‘anti’ anything! We’re not anti-European people. We’re not anti-Europe. It’s this set of institutions. It’s this form of big government we’ve got here. I mean, you know, UKIP cannot be and must not be seen to be an obsessively anti-EU party.

As far as I’m concerned, the EU is part of the whole problem of the way in which we live our lives in this country and I think if we can communicate that, then I think what we can do is start to attract young people in real numbers to come to this party and one of the things that finally pushed me into saying ‘Right, I’m going to stand for this again’ was the number of young people I’ve met that say ‘Nigel, we love what you say, it’s great stuff, we watch you on YouTube,’ you know, ‘we’re gonna join the party.’ So if we can do that and develop a really big youth wing in this party, you’ll see a very different kind of UKIP in two or three years time and I think it’s doable.

I have got a question specifically related to that which is…

Sorry, I’m running ahead!

No, fantastic, fine… which is what role does UKIP’s youth wing play in your vision for the party?

Oh, vital. One of the things I’ll be announcing is part of the central management team – the new central management team of the party, under a Chief Executive – one very senior UKIP figure will be dedicated solely to working with Young Independence and youth development. And we’re going to get out round the schools and the sixth form colleges, we’re going to attempt to plan a really massive go at the Fresher’s Fairs next September and October – we’re going to do this seriously. I see this as being the key. You know - we have to grow, we have to do better at elections, we have to focus more on locals – all those things I’ve mentioned already. But the key into turning this into a positive, buzzy, forward looking movement is to get that youth wing going and I think the time is good.

What do you see local the UKIP branches could do differently and what are they doing well?

You know, I mean, I’m the only candidate here that’s been in the party continuously since the start. Others have left and come back and various things like that. A lot of our best people are getting old. Certainly in the South East and South West which were the areas that we developed, strongly, early on. A lot of our best people are getting old and getting a bit tired.

So, you know, really the answer to this is very much linked into the previous question – we need some fresher and younger blood. I think in the main, the branches do a pretty good job. You know, I mean - some don’t - but in the main, the branches do a pretty good job, they find candidates, but again - one of the difficulties has been convincing the branches that local elections matter but again, even there, we’re beginning to win the argument.

So I don’t want to change the branch structures, I think the branch structures work but I think in the more developed parts of the country they now have county co-ordinators and those county co-ordinators sit on regional committees and I think we have a structure that actually works.

Okay, I’m going to move on to the next section because I don’t want to repeat what you’ve already covered so; polls show that the majority of the British people are, to some extent, unhappy with our relationship with the EU. If Parliament is supposed to represent the will of the people, how did we get here?

Well I mean this, of course, is all to do with why I joined politics in the first place. I mean, I was sitting in a bar in… just off… just off Old Broad Street in the City in 1990 when it was announced that Britain had joined the Exchange Rate Mechanism. That was a Conservative Government. When I read my papers the next morning, I found that Labour and the Lib Dems supported it, too. That’s what got me into politics – the fact the entire political class were now agreeing on a whole host of things. That was twenty years ago! Now, we’ve got three Social Democrat parties. I mean, I’ve been saying it for years but I mean it, you can’t put a cigarette paper between them on most issues of policy or even conscience, so we have a political class and there is a massive disconnect – but not just on this question; it’s not just on Europe that there’s a massive disconnect, it’s there on a whole host of other issues too. So yeah, we have to break down the system, and… and obviously, you know, if electoral reform is one of the ways of doing it. Another way of doing it, of course, is that UKIP becomes so big and becomes such a threat that they’re forced into giving us a referendum on this.

And if we had that referendum, what would be the alternatives to the European Union project?

I think we maybe need to be a little bit clearer about this. We need to be a little bit clearer that the free trade alternative is there, it’s on offer. You know, I remember with Kinnock shouting at me on the Today programme in 2001, John Humphrys said ‘Now come on Commissioner Kinnock, you know, if Britain left would there be a free trade deal?’. ‘Of course, yes’ he said.

So we need to emphasise that we’re not losing anything. So we need to emphasise that the alternatives are the trade deal with Europe but the other thing that we’ve got to do and I maybe not quite succeeded yet is to explain that in a global economy, we’re actually hampered by the Common Commercial Policy or Trade Policy and that it would open up so many other fresh opportunities around the world, so, again – again – again, it’s there, it’s in our manifesto, but I don’t think the general public yet really have quite understood this kind of positive global future that, that UKIP sees.

On that point, some detractors of UKIP do label the party as a “one trick pony” despite us having that very comprehensive manifesto at the last General Election. So, away from the EU, what would be the first thing not related to the EU to go into a manifesto that you…

Well, that’s difficult to answer because what is there that isn’t in some way related to the EU? I mean, what is there? There’s virtually nothing is there, now? I mean, you know, this government’s even accepted foreign policy. We even accepted enhanced co-operation militarily with the Fren[ch]… – I mean, what is there that we can discuss?

No, I think the – I think the fundamental questions of border controls, of migration, of the balance of society – I think that has to be very near the top of our agenda and then I think – then I think the whole question of the size of the state. Now that, of course, breaks down into a whole host of complex issues but, I mean tax, clearly tax, clearly benefits, I mean if George Osborne does what he said on the news this morning, I’ll be thrilled but I, you know, I’ll believe it when I see it – so the whole question of the size of the state, so that, that, that operates at a macro level in terms of how much does government do and how much of our income does it take but it also, it also operates at a micro level of, you know, shouldn’t your local pub have the right to have a smoking room at the back? I mean, if that’s what you choose to do and choose to want to do, so for me, for me – the big one – without being specific, but the big general philosophy is that government is too big.

Some of the people who could support UKIP from what I’ve seen seem to have these constant themes on what they’re saying, so the next question is… does the West Lothian Question require an answer?

Of course it does. Of course it does and ummm… I think the, the, the UK constitutional arrangement at the moment is, is a bit of a mess, I don’t think it was clearly thought through and I have deep sympathy with the view that the English are getting a rotten deal. I have deep sympathy with that. I do not want to see extreme English nationalism, but I do think there is a genuine desire for Englishness that is out there and I’m very much in favour of a federal UK - very much in favour of it.

I think it works on every level, you know, if Scotland, England and Wales have their own ability to run their own things and we do things at a national government level rather like the, rather like America does – I think that is the long term solution and I’m very much in favour of it and yes, I would like to see – you know – an English Parliament sitting in Westminster for a certain number of days every month dealing with English only issues and I think the way we sort of try and pour scorn on Englishness is why we’ve got this rebellion – and, it’s a very English rebellion but you know, on St. George’s Day now, you see the flag everywhere. Well, twenty years ago, you didn’t so there is something going on there and I feel a part of that and I have a feeling, I have a feeling that we can get to a situation where the English, Welsh and Scots and Northern Irish all get on really rather better perhaps than we are at the moment.

Is the UK a police state?

Funnily enough, I was chatting with a policeman coming up on the train this morning about CCTV cameras ‘cos he collared me!

Errr… I think, well… look, we’re headed rapidly in the wrong direction. Is it a police state yet? That depends how you define a police state. We’re probably not there yet and I think if I stood up on a Ques… I mean, I tell you what, be very interesting to get the response from the other candidates. Possibly one or two of the others will say ‘yes it is’ but I promise you, that if you stood up on Question Time and said ‘this country is a police state’, you would earn nothing but derision for yourself and UKIP because the public aren’t yet prepared to accept that we might have got there.

I don’t think we are quite there yet but I think we have a very important job – look, we are - we are the only party, consistently from 2001, that fought against the European Arrest Warrant. What a superb example that is of how the basic principles of the presumption of innocence before guilt, of Habeas Corpus, about all those things are effectively being overturned, I think – I think this whole area of justice and Home Affairs and the concept of freedom and liberty - that’s something that is key for UKIP but we have to be careful in our choice of language.

There’s also an awful lot of people talking about the principles of common law that I’m seeing on the internet…

Yes… well, I think that’s right and I think – you know, the principles of common law are something that people on the street understand without knowing they understand it – because it’s a cultural thing. It’s what they’ve been brought up with and when you introduce… I mean, the way the Greeks and the Spaniards, I mean, guh!, you know, to think – to think that we can be extradited to countries like that - not to mention… – but you see, the point is, America, we can renegotiate the treaty. What did Clegg say in PMQ’s? We’re going to review the European Arrest Warrant? So what you gonna do, old son? Walk into a room with twenty-six other countries and say ‘excuse me, we’d like this on the agenda’ to be told either ‘it is not on the agenda’ or even if it is, no-one wants to discuss it.

I mean it gets to the heart of whether we’re able, you know, to forge our own laws, and – and – and to run our own affairs. And so I think, yeah – justice and Home Affairs will be, I think has to be a very big issue for us and I would particularly, you know, compliment William Dartmouth for going over to Hungary and getting those lads back. Brilliant! That’s the sort of thing UKIP MEPs should be doing.

Is there anything that I haven’t asked you that you would like people who are considering your candidacy for leadership to know?

I want them to know that I am coming back into this to give political leadership. I will not be bogged down. I have got – when I announce who the new Chief Executive is, who the new Party Secretary is, who the Head of Youth Development is – you will see people with proven experience in those fields. Not enthusiastic amateurs that want to help; but people who have actually delivered and - and what we will do, is we will take this party forward, we will adopt professional sales and marketing techniques, this party will grow. We will start with winning council seats and we’re already taking some, and I’m speaking about all these things with a great deal more confidence than I was four years ago.

When I took it over four years ago, I was deeply intimidated by what I faced. I think we now have an amazing opportunity. There is a vacuum out there. You know… We know that Labour have betrayed patriotic old Labour. We know that the Lib Dems are gradually being sussed out. And if you’re one of the millions of eurosceptic conservatives out there, you no longer have a party to vote for. So there are some big opportunities and I think I can really take this forwards.

Last question – the results of the leadership ballot will be announced on November 5th…

Delicious!

Would you like to comment on the significance of that date?

Delicious! Absolutely delicious! Well, it’s what Jimmy Goldsmith said wasn’t it? - the last decent bloke to enter Parliament was Guy Fawkes but yeah – I think it’s wonderful and I think it’s very important that we announce the result in a suitable venue…

The Talking Clock didn’t pry further. We like a surprise…

TOMORROW: The Talking Clock interviews David Campbell Bannerman.

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